THIS IS THE SH*T THAT MAKES MY BLOOD BOIL!

Had to repost-

So my friend Dan (who I disagree with a lot but is an intelligent, good guy) has been talking on his blog about the “un American” things Rosie O’Donnell has been saying lately and the feud she’s been having with Bill O’Reilly.

Here is some of the debate that insued:

First this guy "abouna" talks (this guy is a Catholic priest and yet, in my opinion, he is all hate and no “Christ Love”)

abouna said...
O'Reilly will make minced meat out of Rosie. The only problem with Bill is that he is trying to be kind when he says that he can't understand where all of her venemous hate is coming from.

I believe she is having a spritiual crisis because of her disgusting and unnatural life style which she just doesn't want to let go of. She is seeking approval and acceptance of she knows deep down is wrong. That is why she has such a deep seated hatered of conservatives and Christians because they refuse to approve or accept her life-style.
10:41pm

Then my friend Dan comes in:
Dan said...
Abouna, I'm going to be honest here and tell you that I don't agree with you in regards to Rosie's lifestyle.

But that's ok. I still like you and your blog and I know that while there are going to be a few areas where we disagree, there are far more things that we can agree upon, and that's why conservatives remain a force to be reckoned with. We remain united despite our differences, while those who oppose us are constantly fighting amongst themselves.

And that cuts to the heart of what we are up against when it comes to this Rosie ordeal.

Rosie is adamantly against administration/conservative policy in regards to Gay marraige and other gay related issues and because of that she dislikes the more traditional Americans who make up a large portion of the president's base, and who agree with him and the majority of Americans on those particular issues.

Becasue of this she has become blinded by the issues surounding her own lifestyle and has transformed her anger into an ideological crusade against Conservatives, Republicans and anyone else who even remotely aligns themselves with our nation or with those who harbor any kind of patriotic feelings whatsoever.

This has forced her to adopt a radical, anti-American ideology.

And yet she is only the most visible member of a group of Americans who have adopted this hurtful and misguided rhetoric.

We can not stop this type of thinking among those Americans, but we can do everything humanly possible from allowing it to be mainstreamed by a media which is often complicit in that crusade.
1:21am

Me: O.k., o.k., like I said, I disagree with some but whatever. Next comes David, whom I like A LOT:

David said...
"I believe she is having a spritiual (sic) crisis because of her disgusting and unnatural life style which she just doesn't want to let go of."

These are the kind of opinions which make the persecution of gays and lesbians acceptable and any sanctioning of physical violence or hatred of another group simply because of their innate characteristics is itself disgusting and perverted.

Like it or not, it is the Christian church (in this Country at least) which has become the focal point of this venomous hatred. Yet, they constantly whine and complain about being attacked. Maybe, if the church would be more forgiving and live up to their own teachings (remember "love thy neighbor"), they would be honored rather than reviled.

You'll get no sympathy from me as long as you continue to spew hatred yourself.
10:42 AM

Next comes this holier-than-thou Ms. Thang:

Jungle Mom said...
He did not say he hated her! He said she feels the need for approval and acceptance of a life style that nature itself proves to be inappropriate! Don't put words in peoples mouths! If you want to get mad, get mad at the real enemy that is destroying this nation. No one is condoning physical violence and why can a person state their opinion and belief only if it is leftist? Are we not allowed to have a faith in God and the teachings of the Bible? I love all mankind, but I do not approve of mine own or anyone else's sin! Whether it be hatred, adultery, robbery ,or homosexuality. If I believe the Bible to be the Word of God, which I do, I can not condone any of them, but no one calls me names for denouncing corruption!
1:25 PM

David said...
Hatred, adultery and robbery are all choices, homosexuality is not. It is no more a "choice" than being black, white, male or female.

Therefore by condemning the "behavior" you are condemning the person just for being themselves. It is an atmosphere that allows for violence and discrimination no different than Nazi Germany or the United States in the early part of this century.
10:05 AM

Anonymous said...
Homosexuality may not be a choice but engaging in homosexual behavior is a choice. Denouncing the sin is not condoning hatred, nor violence and David cannot make it so no matter how many times he repeats it.

We all have our crosses to bear. How well we bear them denotes character.
4:48 PM

David said...
Ahhh...so because, by an accident of birth, you are straight, you get to fuck but homosexuals can't. Cracker, please.

C'mon, wake the fuck up and stop covering up for your homophobic, misogynistic religion. What is a true human "sin" is hatred of an entire segment of the population, not because of their behavior, but because of their genetic makeup.

Such attitudes have led to tremendous suffering throughout human history and is the main reason for the sinful and evil persecution of homosexuals today, which you and other so-called "Christians" are complicit in.

What would Jesus do? He would spend a lot more time in West Hollywood than you do, tell homosexuals that god loves them as much as he loves him and encourage them to seek the word of god to guide them in their lives.

What would he not do? Condemn them as sinners. You and your ilk are really no better than the high Jewish priests that Jesus fought against back in the day.

Get off your high horse already, it's tiresome and destructive.
1:02 PM

I could barely finish reading before I pounded out:

Shannonymous said...
HERE HERE, DAVID!!!!!!!!! abouna, you and "jungle mom" need to realize the true love of God is for all his children; TRUE CHRISTIANITY, and the true, pure nature of ANY religion is to love people and accept their differences, not condemn them. TWO ADULTS LOVING EACH OTHER IS NEVER A SIN IN THE EYES OF GOD. God loves when people care for each other and show affection in a physical way, whether it be two men, two women, or any combination, as long as they are all consenting adults. Anyone who thinks otherwise is truly unholy and unGod-like and God frowns upon those people.

Those who label, condemn, ostracize and shame are the ones that are full of hate and self-loathing. Those who shun people that are different from them, and say their lifestyle is the only correct lifestyle are the ones that need to change their ways. People like that (abouna & jungle mom) are truly the ones “seeking approval and acceptance of what. . .deep down is wrong.” And the reason they lash out at those unlike them is to try and make themselves feel better/distract from their own close-mindedness and fear of the unknown.

And don’t point to the Bible to back you up. It is a beautiful piece of literature, but not everything in it should not be taken LITERALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!! I mean, selling one’s daughter into slavery is sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. But would you do it, jungle mom?!?!? Exodus 35:2 clearly says that people should be put to death for working on the sabbath, but millions of businesses are open on that day every week and you don’t kill their workers, do you abouna?!?!?. Oh, and touching a pig’s skin makes one unclean says Leviticus 11:7. “If they promise to wear gloves, can the Washington Redskins still play football? Does the whole town really have to be together to stone my brother John for planting different crops side by side? Can I burn my mother in a small family gathering for wearing garments made from two different threads? Think about those questions, would you?” -Aaron Sorkin

Technology, society, science, commerce, human behavior has evolved… why can’t you?!?
10:50 PM